Youre sitting behind a keyboard, hiding behind the well others did the confronting for me argument, which just isnt in scripture. We must be willing to boldly take a stand for the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ by pointing out the ravenous wolves that Paul warned us would be coming, and noware here: . Rather than writing about her on message boards, I encourage you to follow Matthew 18 and attempt to reach her directly (her website, her social media accounts, her ministry, her appearancesincluding one in Chicago this week). Thats not in scripture. Just saying. If its a false doctrine, its a false doctrine, no matter you feelings about it. Are we just being pugnacious? I will NOT throw out that message.. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. Listen in as Christine Caine joins Praise to speak about the true character of God. The weapon of the enemy are the wolves standing behind pulpits teaching lies and heresies to the sheep, who would rather follow them than Jesus Christ. for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! All you have to do to drift is nothing. I know I am using a generalized context, as some would argue that ministering is different then preaching or teaching. You live all of your life with the utmost transparency including your family life. Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth. John 17:17 Anything contrary to Gods Word produces tares. We pay our respects to Elders past, present and future. They walked as one for they had mutually agreed to put Christ first. I leave what doesnt line up with God to God to deal with. I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life. Pharisees warned of Jesus too. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. They want to judge the world because it makes them feel better about their sad little lives. Inside the fastest growing religious movement on earth, Greg Boyd: The progressive preacher on spiritual gifts, racism and Covid prophecy, An incredible mission that is helping unemployed adults back to work, Craig Greenfield moved his family to a Cambodian slum. I know because the simple fact that you believe I am perfectly okay with agreeing to disagree. Christine Caine: When you start being abused, you think what is happening to you is . Heck, Christine taught me to get more diligent about making disciples and you found a way to completely trash that. Then you cant judge anything outside of your sphere, and you judge me because I do make a judgement, I dont need to see C. Cain personally to hear one of her sermons or Joyce Meyer either, just pick up one of their books, watch one of their videos and their words either accuses or excuses their actions. Your talent will open the door but only your character can keep you there. I pray that you would humble yourself before the mighty hand of God.. Whats your take on it? The key word: DIRECTLY. Say sorry really quickly. I respect your passion for exposing othersI have a similar passion around making sure people know the Bible for themselves so they can be appropriately discerning and have a solid foundation rooted in THEIR OWN knowledge (and not what someone else says or teaches), as I believe faith grows by hearing the word YOURSELF. And to whom am I calling anything behind their back? You go all the way back to the Garden of Eden and the very first recorded conversation, right there between God and man, is God asking where are you and Adam saying I was naked and ashamed so I hid. Word of Faith Get them into the boat. I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow. And in the same way, if our body is broken before we pray the sinner's prayer, it's still broken the minute after we pray it. It is difficult not to be inspired by her passion for Jesus and her unwavering belief that God is still in the business of doing what the Bible says hes always done. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. As I have confessed elsewhere, I have been in this position before. Christian Church. 11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. Over the years I've had to fight to renew my mind to a place where I understand at the core of my being that Jesus is trustworthy. I was at one of her events this weekend and I quote from her message if you are called to be married, you are called to follow. I live like a radical because I think we all should. Elizabeth Prata of The End Times lays out six reasons why Caine must be avoided like the plague. As I mentioned yesterday, pastoral ministry is not merely a building up, but also a tearing down. Mormonism I lived most of my life with that thought. So why do you judge then? 2023 BGEA Listen in as Christine Caine opens up about her past and how God can use you no matter what's been done to you or what you've done to others. What was Yahwehs word for them repent, return or you will be judged. "There is something about walking through the valley of the shadow of death with Jesus: You come out knowing Jesus," says Caine. Thank you. Wolves are loners. 2:17). The scripture tells us that we ought to have in mind the best interests of both the flock and the false teachers. Xoxox. Talking about them and their ministries behind their backs is NOT of Christ. Jesus called the Pharisees out to their faces. Why arent you obeying Matthew 18 and seeking ways to reach out to these people yourself? Stay in the word; get yourself around people that are going to believe in you and speak life to you. (Romans 16:17-18) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Best-selling Christian author Christine Caine is calling on all Christians to get real and be authentic in their relationships in her new book. Anyone who goes beyond and will not continue abiding in the biblical doctrine of Christ has abandoned God. Christ and Paul confronted people DIRECTLY. Keep seeking the Lord and His truth will be found by you. God uses different people to reach the lost because every lost person is different. Im sure Craig Groeshel and Chris Hodges are somewhere on your false teachers list as well. Karen, you need to go back and read the meaning of scriptural judgement, we judge those that call themselves Christians, we dont judge the outside world, read his the Bereans were described for being judges, they compared every teaching with scripture. Beth Moore teaches the same thing, but oh my goodness! One taps you on the shoulder when youre doing something wrong, the other tells you that you are, inherently, wrong. She was so desperate to overcome the pain that Christine read every book she could on the subject, and even began . ~ Christine Caine. Purpose Driven In both texts, Paul hands someone over to Satan. . I have already shared my comfort level (or lack thereof) with talking about people I dont know without confronting them first, or speaking about ministries I have not had any interaction with. Joyce Meyer brought me closer to my walk with JESUS and my daughter is going into ministry to teach people about Jesus and HIS LOVE for his people! Paul wrote letters DIRECTLY to those who were out of linehe didnt write to everyone else BUT them. Homosexual Agenda Anyway be blessed ! Its a story that hasnt been easy to share. Dear Amy, You have the right idea. Read out White Paper on the Word of Faith Movement, Christine Caine, Complementarianism, Elizabeth Prata, Heresy, Hillsong Church, Joyce Meyer, New Age Movement, Occult, Sin, spirituality, Word of Faith. You can hear a thousand sermons on destiny and purpose and God having a plan for your lifeplans for good and not for evilbut if you come at that with a shame-based nature, then deep down you can never believe God could use you. Are you kidding? Dinsdale Young thinks that Priscilla may have been a believer before her husband, and that she won him for the Lord by her chaste conversation, or that perhaps hers was a primacy of character and service, or a more conspicuous intellectual ability, or that she may have been of nobler birth and social quality than Aquila. 3:8) But battles never come at convenient times, do they? So much of our social media imagery shames people and tells them youre unworthy, youre not good enough, smart enough, pretty enough, thin enough or rich enough., So much of our social media imagery shames people and tells them youre unworthy, youre not good enough, smart enough, pretty enough, thin enough or rich enough. If you know and read your bible that is quite obvious. Just because we think we are divorcing or reimagining the symbol from its original meaning does not make it holy. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple International preacher, speaker and author Christine Caine recently revealed that she had been diagnosed with cancer. How is what you are doing here promoting the gospel of truth? Inspiring people to follow Jesus and fearlessly change the world. How do you know that? Peters bad behavior in this situation had a teaching function, and so Paul says that he had to oppose him to his face and in the presence of all (Gal. THE PANDEMIC HAS CAUSED PEOPLE TO DRIFT FROM CHURCHITS TIME FOR US ALL TO CHECK OUR MARKERS. 2:11, 14). Like the Old Testament is a handbook for raising small children, and the prophets are a way of example for teenagers, the New Testament serves as a college level class on living. Outside of having a Bible on my desk, I hadnt done much more than ask for certain evenings off to go to midweek church services. Thanks to Christine, I plan on inviting several lost people to study the Bible with me this Easter season. Where does it say its ok to have others do the confronting for you? You have to make that decision. Dont trust your heart, trust God. I have been waiting for you to say, Hey, I have concerns about what youre learning about ___, may I suggest you go to ____? In all of your posts to this other person AND to me, you have recommended NO ONE. Isaiah 53 says he died for our shame.. God can make anything come toppling down. Return to homepage. The key issue is how we respond to correction. All of us are prone to drifting if we do not stay connected to Jesus, who is this hope we have as an anchor for our soul.. Jesus said Narrow is the road and only a FEW find it. You seem to have sincere concerns, so what does anonymously posting about them online do? Luke 19:39-40 3 9Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, Teacher, rebuke your disciples! 40I tell you, he replied, if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.. Christine's desperate search for her roots turned up a birth certificate. They preach the word. Weve never sat down and had this big discussion like: You are the man and I am the woman, so I have to wash dishes and underwear and that makes me somehow more biblical whatever that means. Again, Peter did not continue in the Judaizing error but was corrected. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. Why, because God has called them to that profession. Christine Caine. What Not to Say to Single Women in the Church. Good night read your Bible berean and how about not twisting it when you do so. I site that purposes to tear down people that are of the faith. I will live my life by His example, by His word and how the Holy Spirit reveals the word to me, not by man/woman alone and definitely not by this article or ministries as such. Oh, but in those same few years, I had attended plenty of Bible conferences and classes and had plenty to anonymously post about other people and their ministry on message boards! People are afraid of what they do not understand. When people are seeking to resolve conflict by following Matthew 18, I am interested in doing all I can to help seek Godly resolution. Wow, look at all the responses against this, we need to follow what the scriptures say not twist them around, Thank you for the warning, I was caught up in these heretical teachers and I am so happy God gave me discernment and showed me that these people are not teaching but misleading thousands straight to hell. 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. When you're abused, you shut down and think you're used goods. Where am I?So I thought:OK, Im gonna put it all out there. I cannot be made up like I am for television for everything I do, or I will never have a life! she says. Life and death is in the power of the tongue.nothing wrong with positive prayers and claiming blessings over our children. 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